The Yankees and Red Sox, bitter rivals, haven't consummated a trade since August 13, 1997. Boston traded Mike Stanley and minor leaguer Randy Brown to New York for a player to be named later and Tony Armas that day. It has been nearly fifteen years since the Yankees and Red Sox were trading partners, but an inexperienced Theo Epstein once tried to engage New York in talks. Epstein admitted as much on Tuesday night while giving a talk with Brian Cashman as part of Sacred Heart's "Lecture Series" in Fairfield, Connecticut. When asked why Cashman and Epstein, now with the Cubs, never made a deal, the former Red Sox general manager said he once tried as a newcomer to the bitter rivalry. Epstein threw out the idea of sending Shea Hillenbrand to the Yankees for Nick Johnson, but Cashman wasn't interested.