When the news of Manny Ramirez's recent arrest reached the Red Sox clubhouse, David Ortiz was shocked and disappointed. The two haven't talked since the Rays and Red Sox played a Grapefruit League game last spring at Fort Myers, Fla., and Ortiz said he can't imagine what Ramirez's life has been like without baseball. "To be honest with you, I've talked to some guys and when it comes down to retirement, even when they get prepared to do it, once they do it they're not ready for it," Ortiz said Friday.