The Philadelphia Phillies and Los Angeles Dodgers are expected to deal a starting pitcher, and the New York Yankees have made Carl Pavano available, so the Cardinals will likely attempt to find their fifth starter via trade. "If we can get a top starter we'll go for it," DeWitt said. "That's not just this year or last year. That's any year. If there is someone of that caliber available at a fair price, we're interested. What we don't want to do is pay top starter dollars to pitchers who haven't proven they're a No. 1, No. 2 or a No. 3" in the rotation.