Phillies manager Charlie Manuel didn't voice much support for closer Brad Lidge on Tuesday. "I'm probably going to use him the way I want to, when we get there and how I feel," Manuel told the New York Post of Lidge. "I'll do a lot of talking in the dugout to [pitching coach] Rich Dubee." His comments came just one day after he went to Ryan Madson in the ninth inning of Game 5.